Last few quests and oddities

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Last few quests and oddities

Postby kohlrak » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:01 pm

Note, i'm using colored text to implement spoiler tags. Highlight to see it all.

Anyway, Cloak of Illusion seems to be stuck. I found it odd when I got defiance early before going to get the cloak. I got the cloak, the shield, and the quest is still running and I can find all three dwarves, whom have no dialog related to the shield, but I can't find where Finnu went. He does not appear to be at Brass Horn's Cave. I don't recall finding him there to begin with, so i searched all over inside, all over outside, around the far border, no dice. I feel like probably found him elsewhere, but I can't even find where that elsewhere is, and the quest description says I should find him at Brass Horn's Cave.

Next we have the Rescue Freda quest. Not solved, not failed, not active, and the Shaman of Stonley's castle isn't talking about it. I figure it's a catch-22, because I gave her the money to take off the moment i got to the holy island and found her, so i believe i completed the quest prior to starting it, and now starting is impossible. Did i loose anything worth while?


And lastly, here in the old tunnels, there seems to be some hidden enemies where i marked them in green. I don't know if they're guarding anything important, either.

EDIT: Deleted one, 'cause i found the hidden passage. If you're seeing the above, they're still unaddressed if not below.
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Re: Last few quests and oddities

Postby Catacomber » Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:42 am

You have to go to the dwarves in the right order. Each one will upgrade the shield but you have to talk to them in the right order. The shield they upgrade is not Defiance but Defender.

Finnu is in the northeast of Brass Horn's Cave.

You need Lord Stonely's quest Lord Stonely's Revenge in order to get Old Shaman's quest. If you didn't talk to him and then Old Shaman before going off to rescue Freda, yes you lost the key to Your Room. You could try an earlier save file.

If this is a problem, let me know and I can do an update that would help you.
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Re: Last few quests and oddities

Postby kohlrak » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:20 am

Catacomber wrote:You have to go to the dwarves in the right order. Each one will upgrade the shield but you have to talk to them in the right order. The shield they upgrade is not Defiance but Defender.

Finnu is in the northeast of Brass Horn's Cave.


Ok, found Finnu. I just didn't go deep enough, 'cause i was misremembering where I found him. For some reason i felt like we met outside.

You need Lord Stonely's quest Lord Stonely's Revenge in order to get Old Shaman's quest. If you didn't talk to him and then Old Shaman before going off to rescue Freda, yes you lost the key to Your Room. You could try an earlier save file.

If this is a problem, let me know and I can do an update that would help you.


I grabbed an old save (since i'm using GIT to manage my saves, so I have even my initial save before i went to the expansion), and go back to the old shaman, he's happy that I got the Roar of Thor and offers no other quests. It would seem that there's a catch-22 here, because i would assume that to get the quest, i must not have already saved her prior to getting Mjolnir ("Roar of Thor"). It's possible i saved her even before grabbing Stonely's Revenge because i had to reload a save at one point.

A room's not a big deal to me, but it might be to other people, and if anyone plays the way I did (exploring first rather than trying to use a guide), you're going to run into this. I ended up saving her prior to meeting the woman telling me to go to Grim's Well.

Feel free to ask for any of these saves...

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Re: Last few quests and oddities

Postby Catacomber » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:47 am

You need Lord Stonely's Revenge quest now to get the quest from Old Shaman. I can change this.

If you go to Freda after going to Lord Stonely and skip Old Shaman, Old Shaman will never give you the quest to rescue her because she's changed her state. He looks for her to be state 0. Most of our players have played most of the expansions and realize it's best to talk to the people in the various guilds or whatever (who are really the betatesters) before wandering out to get more quests. But if Thor's Hammer is the first expansion of ours you've played, you wouldn't be aware of that.

I'll do an update that will fix this situation. Old Shaman will no longer test whether you have Stonely's Revenge quest and he will check whether or not she's been already rescued or killed from the beginning as well as later. That should solve the problem.

Thanks a lot. I don't think I'll need your save files but thanks for offering them.
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Re: Last few quests and oddities

Postby kohlrak » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:23 am

Catacomber wrote:You need Lord Stonely's Revenge quest now to get the quest from Old Shaman. I can change this.

If you go to Freda after going to Lord Stonely and skip Old Shaman, Old Shaman will never give you the quest to rescue her because she's changed her state. He looks for her to be state 0. Most of our players have played most of the expansions and realize it's best to talk to the people in the various guilds or whatever (who are really the betatesters) before wandering out to get more quests. But if Thor's Hammer is the first expansion of ours you've played, you wouldn't be aware of that.

I'll do an update that will fix this situation. Old Shaman will no longer test whether you have Stonely's Revenge quest and he will check whether or not she's been already rescued or killed from the beginning as well as later. That should solve the problem.

Thanks a lot. I don't think I'll need your save files but thanks for offering them.


Thank you.
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Re: Last few quests and oddities

Postby Catacomber » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:20 am

Sending update to Elendil. That should work for you now.
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